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ChrisD46 wrote:How many have successflly used the above hardware with DisplayCAL color management software? I am torn between this option and the more expensive X-Rite i1DisplayPRO hardware to be used with DisplayCal?.I believe both the Data Color and X-Rite software to have issues thus why I'm only interested in their hardware - your thoughts and experiences?If you google 'displaycalspyder5' you will get all kinds of video tutorials on using displayCAL with spyder5 hardware.What 'issues' are you referring to? I've been calibrating dual monitors with DataColor, using their profiles for several years with no problems. My photos come out exactly as I see them on the monitors and both monitors, although always different brands display identically. ChrisD46 wrote:How many have successflly used the above hardware with DisplayCAL color management software?
I am torn between this option and the more expensive X-Rite i1DisplayPRO hardware to be used with DisplayCal?.I believe both the Data Color and X-Rite software to have issues thus why I'm only interested in their hardware - your thoughts and experiences?If you don't want to spend the money on the iDisplayPro, X-rite's ColorMunki Display (not Smile) is said to have the same hardware qualities but is crippled to operate more slowly.The software is different, but since you're planning to use DisplayCAL anyway that shouldn't matter. The ColorMunki Display + DisplayCAL is what I use and that combo works well for me. Jouni123 wrote:This won't help you much, I put Win-10 to my desktop and had to calibrate my Nec Spectraview 242 again.
That was everything else than easy. Nec has program called Spectraview, at last it worked.
Their manual was as much value as nothing. I tried i1Profiler Pro, it calibrated, didn't save and process the final result.
It was no fun at all. JouniYour post is utterly confusing.Anyway myself owning an NEC monitor (PA242W) and using NEC's SpectraView II software under Windows 10, there are no issues.
I also use the i1 Profiler puck (colorimeter) with SpectraView everything works without issue.BTW if you have the SpectraView software, there's no need to install the i1 Profiler software since it can not access the monitors LUT table. This where the SpectraView software comes in.As to the OP's specific question I can't answer since I've not used either DisplayCAL or Spyder 5. Well I can't answer your question because I use a different method. And while I do have the X-Rite i1DisplayPro system, I just use the puck with NEC's SpectraView software.
I don't use the X-Rite software, nor do have it installed because the SpectraView software is specifically designed for NEC's professional monitors where it directly talks to the monitors built-in LUT table, whereas X-Rite's software only talks to the video card.That said, either Data Color (Spyder) or X-Rite are also good at calibrating a monitor, it just comes down to feature and likes. Many people will swear by X-Rite over Data Color, but it's mainly opinion and popularity where X-Rite has the bigger share of the market, just as Photoshop does in the photo editing world.I'm not advocating one over the other as I've used both Data Color and X-Rite. In that vein, I prefer X-Rite's software as I thought it was more feature rich and easier to use. At any rate I don’t use either now since I have an NEC monitor that uses SpectraView.Good luck. Issues I have read are are the Spyder 5 does not have as smooth a gradiation with DisplayCAL as the i1DisplayPro does. ormdig wrote:chrisD46 wrote:How many have successflly used the above hardware with DisplayCAL color management software? I am torn between this option and the more expensive X-Rite i1DisplayPRO hardware to be used with DisplayCal?.I believe both the Data Color and X-Rite software to have issues thus why I'm only interested in their hardware - your thoughts and experiences?If you google 'displaycalspyder5' you will get all kinds of video tutorials on using displayCAL with spyder5 hardware.What 'issues' are you referring to?
I've been calibrating dual monitors with DataColor, using their profiles for several years with no problems. My photos come out exactly as I see them on the monitors and both monitors, although always different brands display identically. Pictus wrote:The i1Display Pro is faster, more sensitive and mainly it is a device you can trust because have very little unit variation.It is more future proof because uses non-organic filter(does not age) and if somedayyou decide to buy a, no problem(Dell Color Calibration Solution(DUCCS) only works with i1Display Pro/i1Pro).It is a one-time purchase, pay more now and do not worry about the future.i1display Pro + RuLeZ!BTW, X-rite should pay-me for the merchandise.That's quite a statement to say futureproof? I've bought many items that are supposedly futureprooof, like many electronics I suspect software, components will have an effect on an item. I suspect in 20 years time it too won't work.
I got a Spyder5 Express monitor calibration tool at Christmas time. The computer is Windows 10 64-bit with the latest updates including the Fall Creators Update.
The first time I ran the calibration there was no visible change on the screen at all.I had a look on the Datacolor website and found a knowledge base article saying this is a known issue with Win10 and that Creators Update:I did as it said, removed the driver and calibration software, removed all the other stuff, reinstalled and did the calibration again. This worked, now the screen colours looked quite different and more natural. Now though, I can't switch between calibrated and uncalibrated profiles, or rather I can but they don't look any different. So I'm not sure if what I'm seeing is the calibrated view (and I've just gotten used to it) or it's gone back to non-calibrated. I don't want to have to remove and reinstall the software again to check.Datacolor apparently haven't been able to reproduce the issue so there's no fix and I already have the latest version of the software (5.2 for Windows). Has anyone else seen this issue and maybe found anything else that will help, short of going through the whole reinstall process again?
Thanks, I think I maybe wasn't sufficiently clear in my first post.When I ran it the first time, switching between calibrated and non-calibrated profiles made no visible change to the display. That's what got me thinking 'this can't be right'. Then I looked on the Datacolor website and found the KB article which I followed the procedure in. After all that, the calibration worked and changed the colours on the display and at that point I could happily switch between the two.Since then (after the first reboot since successful calibration), attempting to switch between the two profiles makes no change at all to the display. I don't know if I've just got used to the change in colours or if it's not actually applying the calibrated profile (it says it does though) and I'm back to seeing the uncalibrated colours I'd been looking at for a few years since I got the screen.I could go through that process in the KB article again but I don't want to have to do it every time I need to recalibrate and since Datacolor haven't published a fix yet I just wondered if anyone here had come up with a solution. I had a similar problem when I installed a new graphics card.
The graphics card had it's own calibration that was running along side the spyder profile. If this is causing your problem remove any graphics card software that isn't the main driver also make sure your graphics card doesn't update automatically.
In my situation the problem came back each time the card updated it's software. Also make sure the spyder profile is the only one loaded by windows and you don't have monitor and other profiles running alongside it. Ah that's interesting, thanks for that. I have an AMD graphics card with the control panel software installed, I've never set any calibration with that but I'll have a look. What type of card did you have that gave you problems?Regarding the profiles offered by Windows, in the Windows 10 Display settings screen it didn't show any colour profiles at all until I first managed to successfully run the calibration with the Spyder tool. At that point I had two profiles, one calibrated and one not and could swap between them. They're still there now but changing does nothing, just as changing them from the little S icon in the system tray does nothing.
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It was an nvidia card but if it's a similar problem it will be the control panel software causing the issue.Try removing all the profiles and all the graphics card software. The reinstall just the graphics card driver or use the windows driver and then run the calibration. If that works you can investigate how to add back your graphics card software with upsetting anything if you actually need it.When I had the graphics card software installed the spyder said it was all successfully calibrated but everything had a greeny/brown look. I got a Spyder5 Express monitor calibration tool at Christmas time. The computer is Windows 10 64-bit with the latest updates including the Fall Creators Update. The first time I ran the calibration there was no visible change on the screen at all.I had a look on the Datacolor website and found a knowledge base article saying this is a known issue with Win10 and that Creators Update:I did as it said, removed the driver and calibration software, removed all the other stuff, reinstalled and did the calibration again.
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This worked, now the screen colours looked quite different and more natural. Now though, I can't switch between calibrated and uncalibrated profiles, or rather I can but they don't look any different. So I'm not sure if what I'm seeing is the calibrated view (and I've just gotten used to it) or it's gone back to non-calibrated.
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I don't want to have to remove and reinstall the software again to check.Datacolor apparently haven't been able to reproduce the issue so there's no fix and I already have the latest version of the software (5.2 for Windows). Has anyone else seen this issue and maybe found anything else that will help, short of going through the whole reinstall process again? Hi Kevin, so I eventually ditched the official Datacolor software and used a third party tool called DisplayCAL. It works with various calibration tools and gives more features than the Spyder5Express (basically you get the features you'd have to pay extra for the better Spyder versions as the upgrades are all in software). DisplayCAL is also free and the calibration thing that sits in the system tray and applies the settings on startup works much better.The software is a bit tricky to set up and use but I found a good tutorial on Youtube that helped massively, I'll dig out the link and post it over the weekend. I was never very happy with the calibration from the official Datacolor software, to my eye the calibration from DisplayCAL looks much more neutral and the prints I've done since calibrating it look as close as possible to the screen image, from what I can see.